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Sidelines Banter- The USC Bowl Game Ban

Posted: June 15, 2010 by sandydmz in Random Shit
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Unfortunately, and fortunately, my Korean co-teacher has me working on a Korean studying plan. It’s basically a Billy Madison type, two weeks per grade studying plan. Along with passing the first and second grade, though, I haven’t been able to find much time to write. I just wish my finally studying Korean hadn’t coincided with The Stanley Cup, the NBA playoffs, the World Cup, 2.5 perfect games in a month (please see The Mark’s article “Baseball Is Just Fine the Way It Is” below), Strasburg’s Debut, Griffey’s Retirement, the Big-12 potentially dissolving, etc. Although I haven’t had time to write a formal article, I thought I’d share a conversation all of us at Reverse Oreo had after the release of the news that USC has been banned from bowl games for the next two years.

This conversation was directed at our good buddy, The Blasian…you may know him as the man who recently stopped writing for Reverse Oreo Sports. He got into USC Business school recently (in all seriousness, congrats to The Blasian), but me being a Cal alum, this has made for constant bickering. So, although I may not have time to get my thoughts on paper, I’m not completely out of the game.

These are comments The Bearded Man and I wrote to The Blasian, which followed in a standard harassment of The Blasian.

The Bearded Man So turns out USC went all Memphis and didn’t play in the national title game against Texas, and won’t be able to go to a bowl
game in your two years there, Enjoy!

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The Blasian

Bet you just got all moist with anticipation to write this on my wall!! HATER!! I can read..I know…and ohh yea..as always..Kill Urself!!

The Bearded Man

Im confused why I would kill myself, I don’t have to put up with no bowls, vacated wins, and decreased scholarships. I just have to deal with scalping some tickets and being in the Mountain West in the near future. USC has just been setup to lose top billing in their own conference, decreased recruiting then add Texas and Oklahoma and Kiffin (12-21). Again I am confused why I would kill myself

The Sand-Rant I just wanted to congratulate you again on getting into USC.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5272615

The Blasian

Please see the response I wrote to The Bearded Man…although…urs is a lil more understandable seeing as how now ur excited that Cal probably has a chance to win a conf title in football now…MAYBE!! FIGHT ON!!

The Sand-Rant

Please see the response The Bearded Man wrote to you.

The Blasian

That’s ok…We will appeal and still going to be beat you guys the next two years

The Sand-Rant

I don’t know, we can recruit quite a few people with our full use of scholarship money and benefits, and we’ll have a bit more bowl game experience than your team.

The Blasian

Well you’ve had full scholarships and money and benefits before but that hasn’t really done you guys any favors…so…we’ll see how it goes…and I wouldn’t get too cockey about that bowl experience thing…I mean hey u never know by the time we get off probation u guys still might have the same number of bowl game experience..NONE!!

The Sand-Rant

Something about the fact that we’ve been to a bowl game the last 7 years, that we’ve been to a bowl game under Tedford all but Tedford’s first year, and that the two big teams in the Pac 10 just screwed themselves up the asses majorly is making me feel OK about our bowl chances.

The Blasian

First rule of investing..the Past is not an accurate predictor of the future…Same applies here..but we’ll see…point is I’m not worried…Loss of scholarships, 2 yr Ban…we will still beat Cal!!

The Sand-Rant

We don’t need the past to predict the future. We know the future…it’s that you guys have none for two years. I think you’re missing something about what’s happening here. We get to play. You don’t. Your recruiting will take a major hit from this. Now we all have chances at the players you guys are gonna lose.

The Sand-Rant

Just do me a favor and re-read what The Bearded Man wrote. Pretty much sums up the situation nicely.

The Blasian

How do you figure??..our recruits are still not going to go to CAL…b/c they never were..now they’ll go to Texas or UCLA, UW, or Oregon all of which are better programs than CAL’s and our recruiting class for this year was top ten..the kids who have already committed for next year (given they stay are top 10) and I don’t know why they wouldn’t b/c… See More they’d only be on probation for 1 yr….but it’s good you have soo much hope and realize that you basically need to handicap the rest of the Conference to win…and then the year after that…The other teams come into the Pac 10 meaning you guys will slip further down the totem pole..If I were you..I’d go ahead and cry…Poor thing..I’ll let you come to USC games with me if you want!!

The Mark

The two years is just a start. I’m sure Lane Kiffin can dirty things up in the next couple of years.

The Blasian

😀 I can only hope and pray!

The Bearded Man

Idk about this first rule of investing, I think you must have been following a different set of rules if you google the first rule of investing two things are common: 1) Don’t lose your money-Buffet and 2) stop listening to professionals-Peter Lynch

The Blasian

Read Graham and Dodds: Security Analysis the original 1930’s press version…Who by the way those are the guys that taught Warren Buffet (literally was his professor at Columbia) and he basis his investing style of Value Investing on….but what’s up with all the attacking today? Yall aint got shit else better to do?..or does it just give you guys … See Moreso much pleasure to rile me up?

But take a look didn’t make it up..this site lists it as a number 5 although in the book its listed as one of the most important concepts to realize….
http://fishtrain.com/2007/08/23/do-you-invest-for-the-long-term/

The Bearded Man

I know that Graham was one of Buffet’s early go to’s as a prof, working at his firm, and making him apart of his family. I will stick with Buffet though based on the money he ended up making, maybe he can buy the Big 12 and force Nebraska to remain.
As to why I am coming at you: you referred to USC as we and our, but mainly cause its fun and I never have shit to do

The Blasian

I expect nothing ELSE and the last thimg I’m going to say FIGHT ON!! That’s aight I can already see it..The 2012 Yr USC and Memphis both crowned National Champions…Ahh going to be soooooo sweet!

The Sand-Rant

The reason we’re all coming after you is cause you make it far too easy. And Edward, you’re alone on this one. Your response to The Mark doesn’t make sense cause he was commenting on the fact that you guys just took a huge hit in your coach. From Carroll to Kiffin is gonna hurt.
And the handicap comment doesn’t make sense cause as I said we’ve made it to bowl games the last 7 years running, along with being a regular on the top 25.

The Blasian

But you’ve made it to GARBAGE bowls…and with all 8 million bowls out there so what???! The truth of the matter is College Football, for the last couple of years has been about the SEC, Big 12 a couple Big Ten teams and USC…the rest of the conference is considered to be a wash..So what you made it to bowl games the last 7 years? Were you … See Moreplaying for anything important?? Nope!! Texas Tech has been to bowl games the last 10yrs…Nobody Cares b/c they were unimportant! Just like Cal’s..

and I don’t take anything The Mark says seriously..my The Mark plan of action..is just to chuckle at him, let him think he’s clever and then go about my business!

The Sand-Rant

And I’m really excited to see the Bowls you guys make it to the next to years.

The Blasian

lol..call me when yall win something meaningful!!

The Sand-Rant

Call me when you get to a bowl game and get your BCS title back

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Go Huskies! USC what? Who? Never heard of them…

The Blasian

…seeeing as how we have 9 others and won the last one in 2003 (that one is not being taken away)…I’ll deal with it…maybe your long historic list of National Championships at Cal can keep your optimisitic too..

….Ur Yellow Jacket now!!! BOOOOOOO!

The Sand-Rant

To your comment: “the past is not an accurate prediction of the future”. That’s a quote I heard from someone once.
The future: “USC punished with two year ban” -ESPN headline.
And again, we’re not the ones with the ban.

The Sand-Rant

I think I’m just gonna put you on auto response:
“Cal is top 25. Your team cheats. Please see The Bearded Man’s response below for more details.” respond to that please if you’d finally like to make a valid argument about your team cheating.

The Bearded Man

I am not sure you know a ton about “your 2003 national title” season. You might be surprised, you might not that you will not see the BCS Trophy on campus (So I guess no one will be taking that away cause it was never there). In fact that year, USC played Michigan in the Rose Bowl not the BCS National Championship game. I am not sure you know the … See Morereason or not, but it is because “you” guys lost to a team that does not have the tradition, prestige, or violations from Northern California, a public university called University of California at Berkley. It’s weird that Pete Carroll’s one remaining championship has a loss to Cal and is held up only by the AP vote.

The Sand-Rant

I’ve never loved learning something so much. I knew we were the last ones to beat them during their undefeated streak, but that just made it so sweet. Thank you, Bearded Man.

The Blasian

…Ur statement is irrelevant b/c when it’s all said and done we were STILL National Champs for that year…be it split or whatever…and yea, so we lost to CAL that year in 3 OT game…still ended up being #1 in the polls at the end of the year….split Champs is Still CHAMPS

in none … See Moreof my statements did I point to the past as a proof we would be ok going forward!!..and Yea, you guys aren’t the ones with the Ban but ur also not the ones winning anything significant either…

The Sand-Rant

“…seeeing as how we have 9 others and won the last one in 2003 (that one is not being taken away)…I’ll deal with it”

The Blasian

Again..still not using that as proof that the future will be bright…didn’t say based on the other 9 Titles…I’m saying I’ll take solace in the fact that if 1 is taken we still have 9 Left!!

The Bearded Man

Yet still “you” do not have the National Championship trophy, besides a side plaque saying you finished first in the AP Poll? I guess “you” can call a split a championship if you want…My next is with your participation that warrants the use “we”and “you” I didn’t know you played, coached, or worked for the football at USC. If so isn’t that a violation cause you would have been a part of two undergraduate institutions at the same time, thus vacating another season.

The Blasian

LMAO..nope I never played in college therefore all of my eligibility remains!! BAM

The Bearded Man

So you will stop referring to USC as we then?

The Blasian

NEVER…FIGHT ON!! I’m going to be just like The Mark!!

The Sand-Rant

I don’t understand the The Mark comment, but I do have to hand you the USC pride already.
Just get used to hearing it: “Twice the price, half the education”. I know you’re there free, but looks like your football team won’t be able to say the same…

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Football said I wasn't listening enough or something like that, I dont remember I wasn't really paying attention.

I feel like we don’t know each other anymore.  We have been growing apart, although it’s not like I have not tried to stay together. We have both done spiteful things, but you especially Football. 

First, it started with my retirement from the game, not that I wouldn’t have continued to play, but I ran out of eligibility, and the demand for offensive linemen overseas is almost negative. But I made it up to you by going on a bowl trip across Texas catching 3 games in five days including a game between Michael Oher and Michael Crabtree. It was a shift, but a great transition in our relationship. It also came with the addition of my ability to bet on games without NCAA violations. 

The Michael Bowl

 

Following that, you gave me a great Super Bowl last year, besides you letting  Pittsburgh win their sixth title, but I could not hold it against you. I covered the spread and saw a great game. Things were going strong between us. I had a party with stadium seating and more food than our house could eat for the next week. 

Then I started missing the old us! Playing in games and such, I didn’t believe I would miss summer camp  in 80 percent humidity. But I did, and things started to go down hill from there.  I got a terrible job working on most Saturdays and missed several great games.  Especially a classic between Michigan and Notre Dame, a game I wish it was possible for both teams to lose. Not to mention what was continually happening in the pro ranks to my hometown Chiefs, a home loss to the Raiders. Really Football, how could you do that to me? 

Things took another turn for the worse when I moved to Korea. Football, you just stopped communicating with me! You were never on television and I would only get five-minute updates from you online. You changed all the times you were on, all of sudden I had to get up in the middle of the night to catch day games. Whats up with that football?  You said I changed, but look at you Football, coming on in the middle of the night! 

Yet, we were still working through things,  I started blogging my opinions on games, and making a few picks. But you could see the distance between us. Out of spite you made the Big 12 title game too close, and then hurt Colt McCoy in the first series of the BCS title  game, making it completely anti-climactic.  You have done some hurtful things Football! 

Football messing with everything!

Then came the playoffs, and you seemed to spite me at every corner. I couldn’t pick a game to save my life for two straight weeks.  I was a bookies dreams, and I think I would have had my knee stomped both times by someone looking like Joe Pesci

Finally you dropped the bomb on me, you made the Super Bowl on a Monday morning, not any Monday, but the first Monday I had to teach in 8 weeks.  I couldn’t even call in sick, since another teacher had told his co-teacher he was skipping work to watch the game!  Any plan was foiled.  At first, I thought I would ignore you and come back to you later in the day. Then I checked and the Colts were up 10, and I thought you were going to give me a blow out so I would not feel bad about missing the game.  Such was not the case,  you gave the world a second half for the ages with gutsy calls, and Hank Baskett references for years to come and I missed it all and have only seen the 8 minutes of highlights on NFL.com. Now that there isn’t even slow transition out of the year (no postseason pro bowl), I have to let you know how you have hurt me, but let’s try to mend some fences before August, maybe in late April perhaps? 

Regretfully yours 

The Bearded Guy 

PS. Football did you realize that basketball is trying to rob your cradle? Making your book “Hurricane Season” into a movie about basketball, while still using the same Mascot? You might have realized it because it went straight to DVD as a Blockbuster exclusive. Basketball’s cruel hearted too, just ask The Blasian. 

Weird, I thought Hurricane Season was about the Football Patriots and Joe McKnight?

Best Super Bowl Ad 

1) So I came forward last week and basically called the Cowboys an easy out against the Eagles. I am here to apologize to the Cowboys.  I took you for the Cowboys of the past few years, the collapsing at the end of the season ‘boys who get hyped by the media and then fall apart with a sub story developing. Despite McNabb looking loose before the game, it was apparent from the beginning, loose didn’t mean ready.  The real player was Vick, who didn’t want the season to end so badly that he delivered one of the longest touchdown passes of his career. He must really not want to attend PETA rallies.  Beyond that, the Patriots era is no more, unable to stop the Ravens rush attack to save their lives; at home no less. Cincinnati failed to redeem Chris Henry, also at home, and how hard is it to hit a field goal? Everyone having a son now a days should get them kicking, there are definitely kicking positions available. The only pick I got right happened in the anti-defense game of 2010. Making it look a lot like the Cardinals of last year. They will need Boldin to continue on, but still a tough out.

2) The BCS game fell apart when the uninjured McCoy went down in the first series of the game. Once that happened, everyone watching considered switching over to catch the new Jersey Shore or started complaining their wasn’t a new Office. It had to be one of the biggest disappointments to happen that early in a championship game.  Even when Ted Ginn went down a few years back after the opening kickoff return (see terrible celebrations), Ohio State still had the Heisman trophy defaulter* in Troy Smith.  So they had other options. But McCoy goes down and in comes Gilbert, not smoking gun agent zero, but a red-shirt freshman who had thrown 26 passes this season in mop-up time, and with little running game it looked like it could be over just like that. But Gilbert did his part, sure he had a couple of turnovers, but his receivers did not pick him up either, the shovel pass, an extremely costly turnover should not be on him and the line did not seem to give him quite the time necessary. Obviously McCoy is the better QB, but Texas still could have won this game if the supporting players stepped up.

3) Unbeatens fall:  KU and Purdue. Both on the road and of little consequence at this point in the season. But a Kansas team that had been skating by turned the ball over 16 times and shot 38 percent finally doomed the former No. 1. Despite Tennessee being ranked 15th. Bruce Pearl recently dismissed star guard Tyler Smith and three other players remain on suspension. As a KU homer, I think it needed to happen especially after the close call to Cornell. Kansas clearly didn’t show up to play in back-to-back games and if they were able to get another win out of that mentality it could have cost them down the road. Self should refocus his squad especially recent turnover machines like Markieff Morris and Tyshawn Taylor.

So No 3 Penis Wine this week! Hopefully we can get some picks right next weekend. To come my picks in the KHBL, Korean Handball League, straight lock picks.

Salute

The Bearded Guy

BCS-A feel of sickness

Posted: January 8, 2010 by The Bearded Guy in NCAA Football
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As much as I would like to agree with The Mark. I have seen Texas sputter too often this season. I think they have played very similar to Florida during the regular season, Uninspired. What made the difference for Florida was a whirlwind of emotions surrounding Tebow’s last game and Meyer’s walking away. If  Texas can find some of that magic, they could pull off the upset, but I do not know what they will be drawing that magic from.  I think both defenses will play their games, and the game will be decided by less than 4 points, but it will be an Alabama victory. I hate you Nick Saban.

The Bearded One

Texas Forever!

Posted: January 7, 2010 by The Mark in NCAA Football
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Texas and Alabama will bring the bowl season to an end. The BCS Championship game should live up to the hype. Alabama is favored by 4 but I don’t buy it.

Sure, Bama put a damper on The Tim Tebow Show but I like Texas in this one. The spread is where is should be but things don’t always go as planned. Four years ago, USC was supposed to blow the Longhorns out of the water but someone forgot to tell Vince Young. This Alabama team is not the 2005 Trojans and Colt McCoy is not Vince Young but the outcome will be the same.

Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram will get his yards but not as many as he’s used to. Jordan Shipley, with Colt McCoy’s help, will make things happen. Hook ’em Horns! Texas 20-13